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Being a TM Leader AND having a life!
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Susan Niven CSP DTM PID
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:32 am    Post subject: Being a TM Leader AND having a life! Reply with quote

I have been enjoying reading several posts in the "PDGs who don't become ID
candidates" thread, and it reminds me of a few things. One is something my
mother always said in media interviews, and the other is something that I
observed and thought about during my first month or two as a Toastmaster.

Mum was a working mother (a hospital administrator, and the President of a
major non-profit organization) in the days when all my friends' Mums were
not in the workforce. She was frequently interviewed by the media because of
her work and her volunteer work, and when asked how she managed to do
everything she had on her plate, she always said ... "if you want something
done, ask the busiest person you know."

When pressed for an explanation, she would point out that people who do a
lot of things, and do them well, have several things in common ... including
passion, organization, and confidence ... as well as well-developed
leadership skills (including team leading & delegation). The passion part,
she said, is about caring to the point of willingness to be a part of the
solution or the work to be done. She would provide examples of many people
who fit that description, and would also talk about times when she had asked
someone for help with a project or to get involved on a committee, and they
would say no ... and yet they were unemployed or retired, not involved in
anything beyond themselves. They simply weren't busy enough or contributing
enough to put value on their own contribution potential.

As to my observation and thoughts during my first month or two at TM ...
there was this fellow named Reg Derry DTM who came to one of our meetings,
and then a couple of weeks later was there again ... and again not long
after that. I asked someone who he was and they said he was the Area
Governor and explained his role with our Club and the other 6 in our Area.
My immediate thought was that if he visited all the other clubs as much as
he visited ours, he obviously "had no life" outside of Toastmasters. At that
point, I "realized" (and decided, I think) that leadership beyond the Club
was not for me b/c I was far too busy! Who knew?

But you know when I spoke at Division, District, Regional or International
meetings ... I often began with that story and the assertion that I DO have
a life outside of TM, because I always figured that other people were
thinking the same thing I had!

During my DG and ID years yes, I had other things on my plate besides TM ...
things like a thriving business, Rotary, activities with the Catholic Womens
League and lector service in my parish, committee work in my professional
association, teaching night school ... AND, of course, all sorts of
wonderful family activities!

As for Reg Derry? I later got to know him well, and we became very close
friends in Toastmasters. He is a research scientiest, was writing a book at
the time of his TM leadership service, was active in his church and several
other things.

No doubt most TM leaders have a similar story :)

Susan.

Susan Black (Niven) DTM PID & Person With a Life!
Toastmasters International Director 1998-2000
Former TM & Lifelong Advocate (of the program at Club level)
Langley, BC, Canada
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Joy
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:37 am    Post subject: Re: Being a TM Leader AND having a life! Reply with quote

You make some very good points here, Susan! My observation has shown that
those who don't have a life outside of Toastmasters are those who don't
think that family or job obligations are any excuse for missing a
Toastmasters meeting or event.

Joy

"Susan Niven CSP DTM PID" <foronlineuse@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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Quote:
I have been enjoying reading several posts in the "PDGs who don't become ID
candidates" thread, and it reminds me of a few things. One is something my
mother always said in media interviews, and the other is something that I
observed and thought about during my first month or two as a Toastmaster.

Mum was a working mother (a hospital administrator, and the President of a
major non-profit organization) in the days when all my friends' Mums were
not in the workforce. She was frequently interviewed by the media because
of her work and her volunteer work, and when asked how she managed to do
everything she had on her plate, she always said ... "if you want
something done, ask the busiest person you know."

When pressed for an explanation, she would point out that people who do a
lot of things, and do them well, have several things in common ...
including passion, organization, and confidence ... as well as
well-developed leadership skills (including team leading & delegation).
The passion part, she said, is about caring to the point of willingness to
be a part of the solution or the work to be done. She would provide
examples of many people who fit that description, and would also talk
about times when she had asked someone for help with a project or to get
involved on a committee, and they would say no ... and yet they were
unemployed or retired, not involved in anything beyond themselves. They
simply weren't busy enough or contributing enough to put value on their
own contribution potential.

As to my observation and thoughts during my first month or two at TM ...
there was this fellow named Reg Derry DTM who came to one of our meetings,
and then a couple of weeks later was there again ... and again not long
after that. I asked someone who he was and they said he was the Area
Governor and explained his role with our Club and the other 6 in our Area.
My immediate thought was that if he visited all the other clubs as much as
he visited ours, he obviously "had no life" outside of Toastmasters. At
that point, I "realized" (and decided, I think) that leadership beyond the
Club was not for me b/c I was far too busy! Who knew?

But you know when I spoke at Division, District, Regional or International
meetings ... I often began with that story and the assertion that I DO
have a life outside of TM, because I always figured that other people were
thinking the same thing I had!

During my DG and ID years yes, I had other things on my plate besides TM
... things like a thriving business, Rotary, activities with the Catholic
Womens League and lector service in my parish, committee work in my
professional association, teaching night school ... AND, of course, all
sorts of wonderful family activities!

As for Reg Derry? I later got to know him well, and we became very close
friends in Toastmasters. He is a research scientiest, was writing a book
at the time of his TM leadership service, was active in his church and
several other things.

No doubt most TM leaders have a similar story :)

Susan.

Susan Black (Niven) DTM PID & Person With a Life!
Toastmasters International Director 1998-2000
Former TM & Lifelong Advocate (of the program at Club level)
Langley, BC, Canada
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Susan Niven CSP DTM PID
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:49 am    Post subject: Re: Being a TM Leader AND having a life! Reply with quote

Joy says ...
Quote:
My observation has shown that those who don't have a life outside of
Toastmasters are those who don't think that family or job obligations are
any excuse for missing a Toastmasters meeting or event.

Yes! I agree! Early in my District leadership journey, I committed the
sacrilege of not attending the Regional Conference to obtain my LGM training
.... because it was my youngest daughter's high school graduation weekend.
Believe it or not, there were a LOT of people who figured that learning how
to be an LGM was more important than that !!!! Astonishing, isn't it?!

Susan.
(who earned Excellence in Marketing, excellence in Education & Training the
next year, and led an amazing team of Division Governors and others to
Distinguished District the year after that! ... all without LGM training!!!)

Susan Black (Niven) DTM PID
Toastmasters International Director 1998-2000
Former TM and Lifelong Advocate (of the program at Club level)
Langley, BC, Canada
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Joy
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Being a TM Leader AND having a life! Reply with quote

"Susan Niven CSP DTM PID" <foronlineuse@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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Quote:
Joy says ...
My observation has shown that those who don't have a life outside of
Toastmasters are those who don't think that family or job obligations are
any excuse for missing a Toastmasters meeting or event.

Yes! I agree! Early in my District leadership journey, I committed the
sacrilege of not attending the Regional Conference to obtain my LGM
training ... because it was my youngest daughter's high school graduation
weekend. Believe it or not, there were a LOT of people who figured that
learning how to be an LGM was more important than that !!!! Astonishing,
isn't it?!

Susan.
(who earned Excellence in Marketing, excellence in Education & Training
the next year, and led an amazing team of Division Governors and others to
Distinguished District the year after that! ... all without LGM
training!!!)

Susan Black (Niven) DTM PID
Toastmasters International Director 1998-2000
Former TM and Lifelong Advocate (of the program at Club level)
Langley, BC, Canada

Yes, it is astonishing. My idea is that family comes first, then work. If
we're lucky, Toastmasters comes third, and we shouldn't always count on
that. Many people volunteer or are involved in other organizations, and put
that ahead of Toastmasters.

Joy
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Eric Matto
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Being a TM Leader AND having a life! Reply with quote

Quote:
Yes! I agree! Early in my District leadership journey, I committed the
sacrilege of not attending the Regional Conference to obtain my LGM
training ... because it was my youngest daughter's high school graduation
weekend. Believe it or not, there were a LOT of people who figured that
learning how to be an LGM was more important than that !!!! Astonishing,
isn't it?!

This is too late for you but may of interest to others reading this NG. I do
know of several cases where people who couldn't attend their own Regional
trainings went to another one instead. The Regional conferences are run over
4 weekends in June, 2 per weekend, all over North America. Someone not going
to their own Region misses out on being trained with their other Top 3
officers, but doesn't miss out on being trained. TI can handle this if
they're given some notice. I remember mentioning this to someone who missed
going to their training and wasn't even aware that they could get it at
another Regional on a different weekend.

--
Eric Matto, DTM, PDG
Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
Treasurer, Voice of Experience Advanced TM Club #583400-60
Member, Mississauga Valley Club #8277-60
Member, Creekside TD Club #864603-60
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betsy_in_va
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Being a TM Leader AND having a life! Reply with quote

This is a great topic!

Getting down to the practical side of things, what do you think you
sacrificed to give you the time to do all those activities? Television
time, maybe, or gardening/housework, or something like that? Or maybe
you just did all your usual activities at a slightly faster pace? Or
(heaven forbid!) did you give up the notion of attending countless
meetings to discuss things and simply spent your time DOING them?

I'd especially love to hear your perspective on meetings, and also your
opinion on whether it's better to delegate big jobs into separate tasks
that people do individually or get everyone together and do the whole
job as a team effort.
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John Fleming, DTM
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Being a TM Leader AND having a life! Reply with quote

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 02:49:31 GMT, while chained to a desk in the
scriptorium, "Susan Niven CSP DTM PID" <foronlineuse@shaw.ca> wrote:

Quote:
$Yes! I agree! Early in my District leadership journey, I committed the
$sacrilege of not attending the Regional Conference to obtain my LGM training
$... because it was my youngest daughter's high school graduation weekend.
$Believe it or not, there were a LOT of people who figured that learning how
$to be an LGM was more important than that !!!! Astonishing, isn't it?!

I think you made the rightr decision.

Your daughter, or course, will always remember her mum was at her
graduation.

I can illustrate the flip side from my own experience. My father missed
my university graduation because he was too busy with work. Throw in
the fact he attended a friend's wedding the following weekend. I don't
have to mention more than that for people to draw a negative conclusion
about my father as a person.

People will forgive you for missing LGM training long before they will
forgive you for missing your daughter's graduation.

Quote:
$Susan.
$(who earned Excellence in Marketing, excellence in Education & Training the
$next year, and led an amazing team of Division Governors and others to
$Distinguished District the year after that! ... all without LGM training!!!)

Well done.
--

John Fleming, DTM
Edmonton, Canada

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