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p c
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 Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:12 am Post subject: Re: Accepted as Distrct and Region Conference Presenter! |
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congrats, Synapse. I am familiar with the types of session from the
brochures and what others have told me. I haven't attended any district
conferences except for the business meeting of one.
I can give you feedback from the perspective of a trainer and attendees.
I thought the impromptu speaking course 2x at as an adult school course.
It was a 1-1/2 hour course composed of a presentation and then audience
practice participation. The presentation was based on the TI module and
my own ideas and research. The audience participation had each attended
to a table topic answer or a role play with another person. It was then
followed by iodate feedback, from the audience audience, then the tt
speaker then myself.
The reason the people signed up for the courses was to get better at
impromptu speaking. They liked the presentation of the basics and they
most liked the practice session, because they learned by doing,
receiving immediate feedback from several folks, observing others and
listening to the feedback for others. During transitions, I interspersed
comments to reinforce or enhance points of the presentation.
For you case, your presentation is probably limited to about a 40 minute
with real presenter time to 30 minutes (about 10 min. for folks to come
in, introducer, your intro, time for evaluation forms etc.). I don't
think contests is what the majority of the folks would be interested in.
If I were to do it, I would do a brief presentation of the basics, then
an interactive part as described above.
Good luck.
...PC
Synapse wrote:
| Quote: | Just thought I'd get some ideas from the wealth of experience here on
the newsgroup as I'm working to cater the content to conference-goers.
I'm very glad to be able to present at this level - and would
appreciate any suggestions.
My overall topic is regarding table topics / impromptu speaking - how
to get better at them, succeed at contest, & apply to daily life.
Given the topic:
1) Would you want to greater focus / more time spent on general
improvement, contest, or daily life?
2) What do you like to see in handouts?
3) What are your expectations overall of District / Region
presentations?
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p c
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:32 am Post subject: Re: Accepted as Distrct and Region Conference Presenter! |
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betsy_in_va wrote:
| Quote: | BTW, how did you get this opportunity? I've always wondered how people
are chosen to make the Regional Conference presentations.
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Find out from the conference chair who is the education chair (the
education committee will select the topics and the speakers). Then find
out from the education chair about the topics they are looking for and
time constraints. Then submit a proposal.
You will have a better chance of being selected if you have a topic they
are looking for, they are short on speakers, or you are a current or
past district officer and you have attended district business meetings,
or if the education committee members know you.
Past and current district officers are regular attendees of the district
conferences and they also make presentations. (The #1 purpose of the
district conference is to have the district business meeting.)
Also, you will have a better chance of being selected if you submit a
proposal for the season that is least attended (and therefore fewer
potential speakers). In this neck of the wood, the spring conference is
is more attended than the fall conference (probably because of the
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p c
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: effective introductions |
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Rick wrote:
| Quote: | p c wrote:
It depends on what you mean effective.
In the context of a regular Toastmasters meting,IMO an introduction is
effective if it it includes the name of the speaker, the title of the
speech, speech project # and manful, and project objectives. The extra
fluff it's fine but irelevant. Most members already know the speaker
already.
We call on the evaluator to read the objectives before the introduction.
While most people know the speaker already, there is a lot that many
people don't know about people. For example, our new members know that
our president is a manager, circuit board designer and a professional
speaker. But only the long time members know that she used to drive a
truck with her husband. That's a fact that I would highlight if she had
a topic related to the highway or driving.
Even if people know that someone related to the topic, they might not
know the specifics. Using our club president again, while people know
she's a manager, fewer know that she's a QA manager. Even fewer know
that she has helped a couple companies introduce ISO 9000 standards into
their company. There were all facts that I included when she gave a
speech on getting motivated to meet personal standards. Motivating
entire companies to meet standards was directly related.
Rick Clements, ATM-G
VP-Ed Daylighters
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I agree and that's why as other have said I also write my own introductions.
In many Toastmasters meetings you are always deling with new members on
the agenda. I would be extremly happy, if the Toastmaster of the day
includes the basic minimum.
Indroductions like these are typical:
"The next speaker is John. Let's welcome John."
"Now to our speaker. Without further ado, here's John."
"Put you hands together for our next speaker, John." |
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p c
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: effective introductions |
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John Sleigh wrote:
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I would keep the manual objectives separate from the intro. These are about
what is in it for the speaker, rather than what is in it for the audience. I
agree that they should be read out as part of the educational role of
Toastmasters. Similarly, times should be announced somewhere. Neither of
these fit into a well written introduction. Between them, they add about
half a minute to the time between speeches. It is also desirable to have a
statement from the Toastmaster that links the speakers.
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In many club's that meet for more than an hour, the general evaluator or
the evaluator will present the speaker and explain the project objectives.
This is helpul for the audience to put the speech in context of the
objectives.
In my club and clubs that meet for an hour the gen evaluator or
evaluator does not do that pior to the speaker (not enough time on the
agenda).
Mentioning briefly the project objects with the introduction will
provide that reference. And also it becomes importan when many
inexperiened evaluators don't identify the project objectives during the
evaluation.
Obbiously, fulfiling meeting roles at a Tomastemeasters meeting is not a
perferct world, otherwise they woudn't need to join Toastmasters. |
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Rod Taylor
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: effective introductions |
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"Rick" <Rick.Clements2@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:di0nh.594$Jf.129@trndny03...
| Quote: | p c wrote:
It depends on what you mean effective.
In the context of a regular Toastmasters meting,IMO an introduction is
effective if it it includes the name of the speaker, the title of the
speech, speech project # and manful, and project objectives. The extra
fluff it's fine but irelevant. Most members already know the speaker
already.
We call on the evaluator to read the objectives before the introduction.
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We do the same.
Introductions are important and, while I agree that writing your own
probably produces the best introductions, introducing others is a useful
skill to learn. This is the most common scenario in the real world outside
Toastmasters. The role of Toastmaster provides this opportunity. Of course,
it requires contacting the speaker ahead of the meeting and asking the right
questions. If speakers all write their own introductions, the Toastmasters
job may be easier but they will learn what goes into an introduction rather
than how to glean information to create one. Also, if all speakers write
their own introductions and the Toastmaster simply reads them, each
introduction will have a different style, which may create a disjointed
effect.
--
Rod Taylor (rodt iafrica - don't forget the @ and the dotcom)
Transformers Toastmasters Club
District 74, Southern Africa |
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betsy_in_va
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:40 pm Post subject: Re: Accepted as Distrct and Region Conference Presenter! |
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| Quote: | In this neck of the wood, the spring conference is
is more attended than the fall conference (probably because of the
international speech contest).
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That's definnitely true here. Fall contest always seems to happen at a
bad time of year (people are busy getting holiday/school/end of the
year reports ready). Plus, our district makes a point of holding one
conference in Virginia (where the majority of members live) and the
other in DC or Maryland. Usually the Fall conference get stuck being
g.u. (geographically undesirable, a term I remmeber well from my dating
years. As in: That guy was really cute, but he's from Riverside
Countyand I just can;t date another guy who's g.u.) |
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betsy_in_va
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:47 pm Post subject: Re: Accepted as Distrct and Region Conference Presenter! |
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| Quote: | I haven't attended any district
conferences except for the business meeting of one.
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Great suggestions. BTW, the rgional conference is right in your
backyard this year. Are you going? It might be fun to meet you. |
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Synapse
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: Accepted as Distrct and Region Conference Presenter! |
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Lots of great questions - some of which seem to have already been
answered by others!
- I'll be at the Region III conference in Dallas, which is where I grew
up.
- I've decided to make it as interactive as I can, as that is my
personal preference and reflected in some of the replies as well
- I came into this with a fairly good knowledge base,
I competed in Impromptu speaking as a child up to the state level here
in TX at the age of 10. I've always had a gift for the quick-comeback,
quick witted stuff.
My job role for several years was a constant "table topic" - tech
support.
- Peppered with a 17-20 calls each day that started with a question.
- All callers wanted a prompt, polite, and on-topic answer
- Time was counted against you.
- Professionalism and accuracy counted.
- Excessive "pausing" (hold time) was counted against as well.
Awhile back I sat down with one of our members who was really good at
table topics and came up with a list of items that make a difference.
The first page is all about things before the contest - so I certainly
agree that "training" is a big issue.
I think the biggest thing that many people miss is that many of the
questions one runs into are predictable, or can be correlated to other
related concepts.
:)
- DW in Austin
betsy_in_va wrote:
| Quote: | I haven't attended any district
conferences except for the business meeting of one.
Great suggestions. BTW, the rgional conference is right in your
backyard this year. Are you going? It might be fun to meet you. |
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p c
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:19 am Post subject: Re: Accepted as Distrct and Region Conference Presenter! |
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betsy_in_va wrote:
| Quote: | I haven't attended any district
conferences except for the business meeting of one.
Great suggestions. BTW, the rgional conference is right in your
backyard this year. Are you going? It might be fun to meet you.
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Thanks for the heads up, betsy. I will check it out. |
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Gene Wirchenko
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: effective introductions |
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"Rod Taylor" <seemysignature@nospam.ever> wrote:
| Quote: | "Rick" <Rick.Clements2@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:di0nh.594$Jf.129@trndny03...
p c wrote:
It depends on what you mean effective.
In the context of a regular Toastmasters meting,IMO an introduction is
effective if it it includes the name of the speaker, the title of the
speech, speech project # and manful, and project objectives. The extra
fluff it's fine but irelevant. Most members already know the speaker
already.
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They may not know the speaker as well as they think they do, and
what about guests?
| Quote: | We call on the evaluator to read the objectives before the introduction.
We do the same.
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I dislike when a speaker is introduced and I have no idea what
the objectives are. That is why I include the objectives in my
introductions.
The evaluator reading the objectives can slow things down. I
have seen it almost derail an introduction, especially if the
evaluator hams it up.
| Quote: | Introductions are important and, while I agree that writing your own
probably produces the best introductions, introducing others is a useful
skill to learn. This is the most common scenario in the real world outside
Toastmasters. The role of Toastmaster provides this opportunity. Of course,
it requires contacting the speaker ahead of the meeting and asking the right
questions. If speakers all write their own introductions, the Toastmasters
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The right question is "How do you want to be introduced?" IMNSHO.
| Quote: | job may be easier but they will learn what goes into an introduction rather
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Words!
| Quote: | than how to glean information to create one. Also, if all speakers write
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My introductions are written to carefully lead into my speech.
Mention my skills with computers when I am speaking about history, and
you muddy the waters. It does not matter how good of an
analyst/programmer I am.
| Quote: | their own introductions and the Toastmaster simply reads them, each
introduction will have a different style, which may create a disjointed
effect.
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If there is more than one speaker, each speech will have a
different style, which may create a disjointed effect. <GD&RVVF>
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko, ATM-S, CL
Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation:
I have preferences.
You have biases.
He/She has prejudices. |
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Gene Wirchenko
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:13 pm Post subject: Re: Accepted as District and Region Conference Presenter! |
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p c <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
[snip]
| Quote: | I can give you feedback from the perspective of a trainer and attendees.
I thought the impromptu speaking course 2x at as an adult school course.
It was a 1-1/2 hour course composed of a presentation and then audience
practice participation. The presentation was based on the TI module and
my own ideas and research. The audience participation had each attended
to a table topic answer or a role play with another person. It was then
followed by iodate feedback, from the audience audience, then the tt
^^^^^^ |
Say what?
| Quote: | speaker then myself.
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[snip]
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko, ATM-S, CL
Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation:
I have preferences.
You have biases.
He/She has prejudices. |
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p c
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:49 pm Post subject: Re: Accepted as District and Region Conference Presenter! |
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Gene Wirchenko wrote:
| Quote: | p c <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
[snip]
I can give you feedback from the perspective of a trainer and attendees.
I thought the impromptu speaking course 2x at as an adult school course.
It was a 1-1/2 hour course composed of a presentation and then audience
practice participation. The presentation was based on the TI module and
my own ideas and research. The audience participation had each attended
to a table topic answer or a role play with another person. It was then
followed by iodate feedback, from the audience audience, then the tt
^^^^^^
Say what?
speaker then myself.
[snip]
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko, ATM-S, CL
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iodate=immediate. :)
I am a 2 finger typist and as result not the best speller. And sometimes
my spellcheker will rewrite the text without my permission (?) Imagine tat! |
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Rick
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: effective introductions |
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Rod Taylor wrote:
| Quote: | Introductions are important and, while I agree that writing your own
probably produces the best introductions, introducing others is a useful
skill to learn. This is the most common scenario in the real world outside
Toastmasters. The role of Toastmaster provides this opportunity. Of course,
it requires contacting the speaker ahead of the meeting and asking the right
questions. If speakers all write their own introductions, the Toastmasters
job may be easier but they will learn what goes into an introduction rather
than how to glean information to create one. Also, if all speakers write
their own introductions and the Toastmaster simply reads them, each
introduction will have a different style, which may create a disjointed
effect.
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I agree that introductions are a skill that we should learn in
Toastmasters.
The best introductions aren't always provided by the speaker. Many
speakers aren't comfortable listing their accomplishments even if
someone else is going to read them. Also, when the Toastmaster reads
the introduction, it comes of a but dull. Often it sounds like it was
being read. It always lacks a personal feel. An excellent introduction
I heard and a conference was:
I'm looking forward to our next speaker. He has written books on
[list of topics]. I'm especially interested in today's topic
because it affects projects at many companies. We had to deal with
this exact topic on our last project. I'm excited to hear how we
can handle it better on our current project.
A good introduction comes from a good introducer. That may or may not
be the speaker. It may or may not be the person doing the introduction.
But a good introduction is a benefit to the speaker.
Rick Clements, ATM-G
VP-Ed Daylighters |
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Rod Taylor
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:56 pm Post subject: Re: effective introductions |
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"Gene Wirchenko" <genew@ocis.net> wrote in message
news:sd7up2p3ol8biit8p9k4457oubbd6dicdo@4ax.com...
| Quote: | The evaluator reading the objectives can slow things down. I
have seen it almost derail an introduction, especially if the
evaluator hams it up.
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Please tell us more. I've never seen or heard of anything like that. In
this part of the world, the Toastmaster mentions the project, calls on thne
evaluator to read the objectives, which are short, and this is usually done
verbatim. The Toastmasaster then introduces the speaker, although this part
is not always done well.
| Quote: | Introductions are important and, while I agree that writing your own
probably produces the best introductions, introducing others is a useful
skill to learn. This is the most common scenario in the real world outside
Toastmasters. The role of Toastmaster provides this opportunity. Of
course,
it requires contacting the speaker ahead of the meeting and asking the
right
questions. If speakers all write their own introductions, the Toastmasters
The right question is "How do you want to be introduced?" IMNSHO.
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True, but relatively few know what constitutes an effective introduction. If
the speaker writes a poor introduction, they will be introduced the way they
wish, but it may not be effective.
Even writing your own introduction is of limited value if the Toastmaster
does not prepare thoroughly and struggles with some of the words and phrases
that the speaker has so carefully prepared in their introduction.
| Quote: | job may be easier but they will learn what goes into an introduction
rather
Words!
than how to glean information to create one. Also, if all speakers write
My introductions are written to carefully lead into my speech.
Mention my skills with computers when I am speaking about history, and
you muddy the waters. It does not matter how good of an
analyst/programmer I am.
their own introductions and the Toastmaster simply reads them, each
introduction will have a different style, which may create a disjointed
effect.
If there is more than one speaker, each speech will have a
different style, which may create a disjointed effect. <GD&RVVF
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We expect different styles, sentence structures, and the like from different
speakers. We expect greater consistency from one speaker.
--
Rod Taylor (rodt iafrica - don't forget the @ and the dotcom)
Transformers Toastmasters Club
District 74, Southern Africa |
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tucsonmike
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:00 pm Post subject: Re: Accepted as Distrct and Region Conference Presenter! |
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Congrats. I got to present at International once. It is a great
feeling. WEll done.
Mike
Synapse wrote:
| Quote: | Just thought I'd get some ideas from the wealth of experience here on
the newsgroup as I'm working to cater the content to conference-goers.
I'm very glad to be able to present at this level - and would
appreciate any suggestions.
My overall topic is regarding table topics / impromptu speaking - how
to get better at them, succeed at contest, & apply to daily life.
Given the topic:
1) Would you want to greater focus / more time spent on general
improvement, contest, or daily life?
2) What do you like to see in handouts?
3) What are your expectations overall of District / Region
presentations? |
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