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John Fleming, DTM
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 Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:31 am Post subject: Re: Credit for delivering same speech |
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On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 01:35:31 GMT, while chained to a desk in
the scriptorium "RICHARD MJR HAYS" <hays7@verizon.net>
wrote:
| Quote: | $I'm not sure of exact rules, but wouldn't PLAGIARISM be an issue here?
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No. It's only plagarism if the speaker has taken something
written by someone else and presented it as his or her own
ideas.
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John Fleming, DTM
Edmonton, Canada
Attitude Boosters Toastmasters (7022-42) - Member
Chamber Toastmasters (5594 - 42) - Member
A scientist can discover a new star but he
cannot make one. He would have to ask an
engineer to do it for him.
- Gordon L. Glegg |
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Rod Taylor
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: Re: Credit for delivering same speech |
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"Rick" <Rick.Clements2@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ybcBj.5033$y83.414@trndny06...
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There shouldn't be a rule about repeating speeches. Most people don't
repeat speeches. Most of the repeated speeches have a valid reason. How
would we regulate it? How similar does a speech have to be before it's a
repeat?
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For the Regional/DNAR and International Speech Contest, speeches must be
entirely new and different from the one used at District level. There are
five qualifying judges assessing this and it requires a majority decision to
disqualify a contestant.
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Rod Taylor (rodt iafrica - don't forget the @ and the dotcom)
Transformers Toastmasters Club
District 74, Southern Africa |
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p c
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:20 am Post subject: Re: Credit for delivering same speech |
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Darren Gilchrist wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks Sara! More comments very welcome.
Sorry - I should have explained a bit better. The person has potentially 10
speeches in their pocket. Delivers speech #1 "Icebreaker" at one club, gets
credit. Repeats speech #1 "Icebreaker" at another club and gets credit and
so on for up to 8 clubs! (therefore speech #1 is only repeated 8 times)
Then does the same for speech #2 "Organise your Speech" (repeats up to 8
times), speech #3 "Get to the point" (repeats up to 8 times) etc etc.
However, not to say that this is always done of course. Unique speeches
might be created and presented.
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I think it's ok in theory per the TI rules because the person is not
repeating the same speech for credit for the "same CC manual" such as
for speech #1, then # 2, and so on. But using them to repeat the CC
manual, although I see no personal benefit if using the same speeches to
repeat the CC manual so many times. |
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Rick
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:00 am Post subject: Re: Credit for delivering same speech |
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Rod Taylor wrote:
| Quote: | For the Regional/DNAR and International Speech Contest, speeches must be
entirely new and different from the one used at District level. There are
five qualifying judges assessing this and it requires a majority decision to
disqualify a contestant.
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That is only for the contest. There the speeches only have to be
different for the District & Regional speech. I heard a speech that was
going to be used at Regional I think, one of his examples was also used
in an earlier humorous contest speech. It was used for different effect
and it was only part of the speech. It was the same event though.
Rick Clements, DTM
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